Objectivist Ecology

topic posted Thu, September 28, 2006 - 10:08 PM by  zigo
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I am interested in discussing this concept with others.

My main stance is based on the virtue of selfishness informing a correct, rational, scientific full-launch towards real ecological participation and awareness.

'Sustainability' is an instant necessity of Galt's principle: (paraphrase) I vow on my life that I will live for the sake of no other, nor ask another to live for the sake of my life.
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zigo
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  • Re: Objectivist Ecology

    Sun, October 1, 2006 - 8:50 PM
    An enlightened individual quickly realizes it is a bad Idea
    to piss in ones own swimming pool,
    However that decision should still be left to the individual to
    weigh the cost/benefit ratio of each proposition.
    • Re: Objectivist Ecology

      Sun, October 1, 2006 - 8:56 PM
      Cost/benfit. That's where the rub is. The trick is to get the beneficiaries to also bear all of the costs. (i.e. a factory can't dump its waste into the river at the expense of the fisherman.)
      • Re: Objectivist Ecology

        Mon, October 2, 2006 - 4:54 PM
        outside of the recent efforts to begin monitizing public resources - like the efforts to create penalty/credits based on factory emissions, have you guys heard of other interesting economic models/strategies for integrating environmental concerns into our economic markets?
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        Re: Objectivist Ecology

        Sat, November 18, 2006 - 6:31 PM
        Setting a price on externalities can fix many, but not all, environmental problems. Some externalities are easy to price, like the loss in land value when someone dumps sewage on it. Others are more difficult, like the slight increase health risk from the smoke coming out of a neighbor’s barbeque. Others are just about impossible to price, like the extra health risk to you when someone else in the room sneezes.
      • Re: Objectivist Ecology

        Mon, December 4, 2006 - 9:53 AM
        I would maintain the factory owner pays a cost too because if the the fisherman do not catch fish
        they can not buy what the factory produces.
        Same thing if the polution kills or shortens the lives of would be customers.
        Frankly all the evils of Capitialism can be traced down to just Very Short term, short range thinking and not to Capitalism itself.
        • Re: Objectivist Ecology

          Mon, December 4, 2006 - 3:13 PM
          ah .. as producers are somewhat held at whim by the intellegence, forsight, or lack-there-of of consumers.. its not, the real challenge for a long-range thinking economic entity to find their market who appreciates, responds, and finds value in their contrabution.

          we've entered the critical mass time for such an educated consumer-base existing. Producers find themselves needing to comply to consumer demands just to maintain their current stance.

          but is that enough? does that work?.. what part does the do Producers need to take the initial step into 'sustainable practices' and then self-create their market by educating consumers to the importance of their practices? .. similar to how other companies have created their own markets in the past by falsely-translating consumers innate desires back to them..

          My MAIN question revolves around industries outside of masss-consumer influence.. monopolies, government contractors, major industrial products manufacturers.. sure there is the inevitable trickle affect down to the main-populations' economic and political influence, but how can I evolve the VALUE structures to more immediately and transparently refelect the needs of my species survival?

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